tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314170255512513562.post4399622820686083853..comments2024-01-13T01:13:27.059+00:00Comments on Changing the World (and other excuses for not getting a proper job...): Fax Machines and the Invention of the WheelDougald Hinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13454824557311085039noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314170255512513562.post-54212992686381298852019-08-09T10:17:54.800+00:002019-08-09T10:17:54.800+00:00Using fax machine for faxing services is time taki...Using fax machine for faxing services is time taking.While there are more <b> <a href="https://www.bestonlinefax.com/what-is-a-fax-app/?utm_source=mtpl&utm_medium=marketing" rel="nofollow"> benefits of online fax apps</a></b> like instant send and receive faxes from anywhere in the world,cost effective, customized fax cover etc.bestonlinefaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138255427505542790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314170255512513562.post-5622647070942521322019-05-13T06:51:11.136+00:002019-05-13T06:51:11.136+00:00Thank you for sharing this useful information. 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Apart from anything else, focusing on the technology itself involves trying to make sense of the new, whereas human relationships don't change that much over time, so past experience (our own or other people's) tends to remain helpful.<BR/><BR/>(2) Sorry, I should have been less elusive with my allusions! The quote about history is actually from Chapter 2 of James Joyce's 'Ulysses'. It's a line I often think of in relation to anti-civilisation thinkers like Jensen and Prieur. But you're right, anything that focuses your attention on an abstraction like 'history', even to escape it, is likely to be counterproductive. One of the main challenges I picked up from hanging out with Illich's friends and collaborators in Cuernavaca was the discipline of trying to think in terms which are grounded in the senses.<BR/><BR/>And yes, none of what I wrote was meant as a criticism of John's comment - it was the combination of your two perspectives which got me thinking!Dougald Hinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13454824557311085039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314170255512513562.post-86556497999457539462007-12-20T03:47:00.000+00:002007-12-20T03:47:00.000+00:00Addendum:John's comment is right on, as he usually...Addendum:<BR/><BR/>John's comment is right on, as he usually is.<BR/><BR/>I wasn't trying to really locate THE change point in time but to simply take it as a point in time where as you say the process flexed by charging through a threshold.<BR/><BR/>I see it, like John, as a picket fence, starting now, and extending back in historical time. <BR/><BR/>TimTim Hodgenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15237942768894057727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314170255512513562.post-85479407871699392582007-12-20T03:44:00.000+00:002007-12-20T03:44:00.000+00:00Dougald,Thank you very sincerely for your very kin...Dougald,<BR/><BR/>Thank you very sincerely for your very kind words both here and on my blog from my most recent posting on Neighborliness.<BR/><BR/>Your posting today is simply outstanding. <BR/><BR/>A few comments:<BR/><BR/>1. I like the theme of the "intensification of a pre-existing tendency," and how you weave it in with the example of the cod fishing process where everything changed when it crossed a certain threshold.<BR/><BR/>I presume this is only known through reference to the rear view mirror. But that is a scary measure in a context of multiple societies which are only looking forward and at that only in the immediate future.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the early warning system is to look at how relationships are being negatively impacted as a measure of each new technology, no matter what it (deceptively) promises for better living.<BR/><BR/>2. Your friend's statement: "history is the nightmare from which I am trying to awake." Powerful statement. I would suggest that the act of trying is counterproductive in itself. Perhaps a simple question, repeated often and at random times like "is this awake?" might be helpful.<BR/><BR/>I have been thinking of "time-bound" and perhaps (the space of)"no-time" and in that context history locks us into .... I'll have to think more about that.<BR/><BR/>But remember that history is written by the victor, and as such it is always to be doubted.<BR/><BR/>3. Stress addiction - absolutely!<BR/><BR/>4. Voluntary renunciation - absolutely! One of my new (additional) mantras is: "got less. Be more."<BR/><BR/>TimTim Hodgenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15237942768894057727noreply@blogger.com